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Nov 23, 3:52 PM
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philtecturophy
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A movie can be historically accurate perhaps such as Oppenheimer, but I think it is definitely the worst movie I have ever watched in my life I wanted to run away from it when waiting it for 3+ hours to end. My sacrum hurts so much waiting it to end in theater even watching it on theater's bed. The movie really feels like torturing Wikipedia historical pages but with sound. Yuck..
What is your opinion in this matter?
Nov 23, 4:10 PM
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Little_Sheepling
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Happens all the time in Dinosaur movies that I love to watch, as everyone seems to think that synapsids like Dimetrodon either are Dinosaurs or existed in the same time periods as them, both massively wrong. Toy companies are just as guilty as them though when it comes to sneaking Dimetrodon into bags of Dinosaurs. I just don't get this obsession they have with it😂
And don't even get me started on 10,000 BC. I didn't know wether to laugh or cry at that one.
Nov 23, 5:45 PM
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Fate_Saber88
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It depends what is the target audience and what is the genre, I won't care about historical accuracy when watching something like Tropic Thunder or any comedy, but historical accuracy is important for me in war and mobster movies.
Some war and mobster movies that I praise for the historical accuracy, although it's impossible to be 100% perfect in any movie:
- Stalingrad (1993) — Perfect
- A Bridge Too Far — Some inaccuracies regarding the German command decisions and quotes but it's passable.
- Once Upon a Time in America — Depicts mobsters as what they are, despicable horrendous criminals.
- Patton — Some historical innacuracies but passable.
- Zulu — Perfect
- Das Boot — Perfect
- Tombstone 1993 — Perhaps one of the only cowboy movies that is accurate despite some inaccuracies regarding Jhonny Ringo's fate.
Some movies that I despise for historical accuracy:
- Saving Private Ryan — I know it's fiction but holy sh* they couldn't make anything accurate besides the uniforms and guns which is the basic stuff, anything from the timber posts at the beach being placed in the wrong direction to the high command ordering a group of 7 soldiers into enemy territory in order to find one man, then we got the MG42 holding fire for 10 seconds and no barrel meltdowns/changes, the action is good and I praise it for that but anything else is just garbage. ''Upham! Upham!''.
-Stalingra 2013 — Throw in the dumpster fire.
-Enemy at the Gates — I don't know where even to begin just throw in the dumpster fire.
- Donnie Brasco — A good movie but very inaccurate, firstly is that Lefty never got killed because he vouched for Donnie, I know that the movie never shows him getting killed but implies it as he removed all of his jewelry which is a sign that a mobster knows that he would get killed, also the entire Donnie Brasco thing was never all about lefty, the movie failed to explore Donnie's and Sonny Black relationship which was the focal point on his infiltration, Sonny Black had Donnie almost as a son and was the only person who got whacked because of him.
-Every Western movie ever has many inaccuracies.
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Nov 23, 5:52 PM
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Mirania
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I think it depends on the source material. If it is a romanticized version of a time period like Queens Gambit or something I do not need it to be entirely accurate. If someone that lived back then were like " I guess that could have happened but probably not". I do not want like something that had a 0% chance of occurring just for more views or action.
Nov 23, 6:13 PM
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Zettaiken
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If it's a movie inspired by a history than I make 2 separate opinions/ratings, first one is just the movie and putting aside history. Second is historical accuracy. As you've mentioned Gladiator II, for me it was a decent movie. Horrible historical depiction, the first movie wasn't even that close with mistakes.
If it's a doccumentary than I am full on focused on historical accuracy after all it should be a doccumentary, such as this bs netflix cleopatra... [Haven't seen cause I knew already that it is not worth the time]
I usually appreciate if the movie staff pays more attention into details, as there will be always some mistakes but it is good to see some homework been done, a good example of that is All Quiet on the Western Front, even with it's mistakes it has tried a lot to show how it was. Aswell as with Alexander from 2004 showing the battle of Gaugamela based on historical resources [even tho it still had other mistakes]. Or also I did like a lot the approach for Barbarians season 1 [Haven't seen 2nd], to make Romans speak in Latin and German tribes speaking in German.
Still waiting for a movie with more realistic approach to melee combat and how it should look like or battles as that's the most lacking. As so far outside of one Polish movie with sabre duel [forgot the name but you'll find it quickly] there are usually fanmade clips and the one anime.
Nov 23, 6:20 PM
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Cielord
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It depends on the movie. A movie that wants me to take it seriously or is about a historical tragedy (e.g., Holocaust movies) has the responsibility to get the major details right.
Nov 23, 8:30 PM
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Serafos
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Very rarely.
Nov 23, 8:35 PM
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PeripheralVision
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There's a difference for me between Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter and Birth of a Nation. There is merely taking place in a time period in a given place, and then there is failing to reckon with that time period in a movie that sells itself as history while obfuscating the tragedies and omitting the atrocities.
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Nov 24, 1:41 AM
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Zarutaku
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Depends, if the movie tries to appear historically accurate but isn't, then it might annoy me, but if it doesn't try to appear accurate, then I don't care.
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Nov 24, 3:10 AM
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LittleOwlbear
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It depends how bad it is, but overall these "but it's not historically accurate"-people are annoying af.
They are even like that at renfaires (bro behind me is an elf, why do you come up to me about that) and fantasy media. "But in medieval age..." and it's often followed by very outdated beliefs like "nobody washed themselves" etc. Or it's hyperaccurate and they want a fictional fantasy world look like real medieval ages.
Nov 24, 3:41 AM
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Commit_Crime
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idk I dont think historically accurate movies were ever really a big thing. If it doesnt try to be a documentary, I dont expect it.
If you watch Turist, you watch it because you want to see Russian perspective, no one even knows what is/was happening in CAR anyway. I watched some Serbian movie about Kosovo and they made the UCK look like a jihadist organization lol. And the American movies got a bunch of their own bullshit, in WW2 its gonna be the myths about clean Wehrmacht and Soviet hordes, after ww2 its about "bringing democracy to the third world" and all the Netflix crap about medieval and earlier periods alters the age to suit the current culture war bullshit.
I think I prefer stuff like Legend of Kolovrat at this point because I'd rather watch a fantasy/historical hybrid. I dont expect historical accuracy so I might as well get some magic
Nov 24, 4:44 AM
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SmugSatoko
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I care about scientific accuracy in films more than historical accuracy, but ultimately they are just entertainment.
Nov 24, 7:32 AM
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justmaya
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It depends on how much I care about the history.
Nov 24, 10:44 AM
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For a historical movie based on real events, yes, it is important, but some creative liberties can be taken depending on what it is.
Nov 24, 11:25 AM
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Vampire_Lord
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I don't care about complete historical accuracy while watching movies. I rely on documentaries and books when I want to know more about history.
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Nov 24, 11:50 AM
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GinInYourJuice
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- If the director says the movie is a work of nonfiction and is historically accurate, and the movie is being promoted that way as well.
- If the director never claimed that the movie is nonfiction and/or historically accurate, but I can still tell that the movie is trying pretty hard to come across as being nonfiction and historically accurate. Depending on the content of the movie and how it comes across to me, I could care about the historical accuracy either a lot or just to some degree in this case.
Nov 24, 1:01 PM
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Zayvex
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Not really, movies are just entertainment to me at the end of the day, if I wanted more accuracy and details about a certain subject, I'd read a book about it not watch a movie.
Nov 24, 11:32 PM
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Theo1899
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philtecturophy said:
The movie really feels like torturing Wikipedia historical pages but with sound.
I wouldn't say that. The movie has a central theme: Oppenheimer good, McCarthyism bad and everything it does works for that. Since I think that Oppenheimer was in the wrong I couldn't really get behind that.
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Nov 25, 10:43 AM
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What usually annoys me are things like dumb action sequences, continuity errors, or weird physics. Like characters surviving falls or impacts that would be 100% deadly in the real world, only to then get killed after an arrow struck their plate armor or something.
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